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The Magazine of the National Geographic of the month of April 2010.

The officially recognized H.H. 17th Karmpa Urgyen Thinley from the H.H. 14th Dalai Lama and by the Chinese authorities.

First of all why such a High Rank Rimboche should be recognized by an inferior Rimboche like the Dalai Lama, because Karmapas are known that they recognize themselves as the true Karmapa at an early age.

Urgyen Thinley was born in Tibet in the year of the buffalo 1985, in a remote village.

He went in a Chinese monastery in near Lhasa, at the age of 11 it is supposed that He should have run  away from his monastery by feet and with the help of His followers.

But how is possible a child of 11 years can go through the Himalayan pass between Tibet and Nepal which are around 6000-8000 Meters full of ice, snow and dangerous cliffs. Only by feet!!!

It might be a complot between the Chinese government and the Tibetan leader in exile H.H. Dalai Lama to bring Him safely to India maybe more possible with an helicopter or also a private jet!!!

Second how is possible that the Chinese authorities did not recognize immediately his escape at the border or at least the Indian authority.

This information is however unclear till today, without any comments, the truth should be known to the world not lies.

How come such a high rank monk like His Holiness 17th Karmapa has learned Chinese.

The question is does He have any relation with the Chinese government? And is He Chinese or Tibetan?

This should be answered.

It is also written that he is not interested in politics and has never touched money, internet and facebook.

That’s a big lie because He is involved with the Chinese government more than anybody can imagine , the only thing that he speaks Chinese is enough to prove.

Internet is essential to every sentient being in these 21st century. Only a person that goes to retreat many years in the cave does not need.

Every Rimboche when he receives his pellegrims receives a traditional “Khata” ( Scarf made of silk) with inside usually a letter with some money. Because it is believed in Buddhism if you give some money to Rimboche he will gate enormous benefit for your Karma.

How come such a High or the Highest Rimboche like His Holiness like the 17th Karmapa should succeed His Holiness Dalai Lama, that’s outrageous.

The Tibetans are saying what will happened after the dead of His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, who will take the power?

Or will definitely end the hope of a free Tibet.

 So in this case they believe the best thing to do is His Holiness Urgyen Thinley 17th Karmapa should  become a Dalai Lama for the enthronement.

But that’s not possible because A Karmapa should remain Karmapa and not become Dalai Lama otherwise there will be a big chaos and confusion in Buddhism and in the world.

It has said that Karmapa is Power and Dalai Lama is like a Khenpo ( Teacher).

Long time ago His Holiness the 3th Karmpa refused the crown of Tibet because He predicted that religion should not be mixed with politics because it would cause only confusion between spirituality and materialism and power.

Why in the magazine of the national geographic is not mentioned and ignored His Holiness the 17th Karmapa Dawa Sangpo Dorjee????

This proves more than ever the discrimination by the Tibetan communities towards the non Tibetan.

Buddhism is for all not only for Tibetans.

Like The Prophecies from Guru Rimboche :

 

The Dharma will shine in the west once Tibet has fallen.

 

1st Controversy to be found in Wikipedia:

Just a few insignificant lines concerning the Genuine Karmapa to be found there:

 “There have been other claimants to the title who are less well known or widely supported. One such person is Dawa Sangpo Dorje, who was born in Mangan in north Sikkim in 1977 (before the death of the 16th Karmapa) and subsequently resided in Damthang in South Sikkim. As recently as December 2003 he requested the opportunity to prove his "supernatural power" to the Dalai Lama.[15]

Comment:

Wikipedia refuses to add any detailed Information about H.H. 17th Karmapa Dawa Sangpo Dorje and blocked the page of editing it after failing to edit about H.H. we are disapointet about the fact, that Wikipedia  probably might have racist backgrounds or is in collaboration with the counterparties and therefore does not show any democratic values.If they are in doubt about H.H. then why they do not go to Sikkim to meet him and to interview him directly? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karmapa_controversy

 

2nd Controversy to be found in a statement of  9th KhenchenTrangu Rinpoche:

  “At the moment, two Karmapas have surfaced, one from India and the other from Tibet. In terms of worldly affairs, I have nothing to do with them. I am in Nepal. But in the course of my lineage practice, I constantly prayed to the 16th Karmapa for his help to enable me to know clearly and deeply in my mind who is the real 17th Karmapa. Praying with pure motivation and with the blessings of the 16th Karmapa, I have concluded with absolute certainty that Urgyen Trinley Dorje from Tibet is the 17th Karmapa. I have reached this conclusion from my own practice and the blessings of the Karmapa. We could also determine who is the real 17th Karmapa from the following:

Comment:

H.H. 17th Karmapa Dawa Sangpo Dorje was born in Sikkim in India and the fact that Thrangu Rinpoche mentions only two Karmapas and not three Karmapas have surfaced prooves strong racism towards another comunity. For Thrangu Rinpoche and his associates the Karmapa has to be a tibetan born monk; Born from tibetan parents because their goal is to achieve the Buddhist leadership through the name of Karmapa  and they would not be satisfied to see the new leadership as an Sikkemese monk born in India without any tibetan background. The two Karmapas choosen from the tibetan authorities are in fact only marionets in the hand of those gurus whose only purpose is to reach power over a big part of the buddhists in order to continue to falsificate the buddhism to gain earthly wealth.

The genuine His Holiness Gyalwa Karmapa Dawa Sangpo Dorje would never let be commanded by any of those gurus because His Holiness is the only one true genuine Karmapa and the Real Master of Buddhism.

Trangu Rinpoche should be rather thankful to Nepal that he can riside there and could obtain the permission to built a huge monastery near Kathmandu, whateverelse than in the Name of the false would like to be Karmapa!

The vision of the Landscape which Chogyur Linpa described ist not all similar where the false would like to be Karmapa Tinley Dorje was born in Tsurpu neither  Thaye Dorje who was born in Lhasa Valley in Tibet;

 

Birthplace of His Holiness 17th Karmapa Dawa Sangpo Dorje in Mangan

 

Birthplace of His Holiness 17th Karmapa Ugyen Trinley Dorje in Tsurpu Tibet

 

 

Birthplace of His Holiness 17th Karmapa Thaye Dorje in Lhasa Valley Tibet

 

 

 

Chogyur Dechen Lingpa the author of the Vision (1829 – 1870)

 

“Under a verdant tree,

On a rocky mountain

Will be born the 17th Incarnation

With Kentin Thai Situpa.”

 

 

Chogyur Dechen Lingpa the author of the Vision (1829 – 1870)

 

“Secondly, when I was with the 16th Karmapa, he wrote a prediction letter about his reincarnation when he was on his way to India from Tibet. After he arrived at Rumtek Monastery in Sikkim, he also wrote a letter in poetic form predicting his reincarnation. I had read both the letters myself. The first of the two letters stated clearly that Urgyen Trinley Dorje of Tibet is the 17th Karmapa. The second letter written in Rumtek, which I had read, again stated clearly that Urgyen Trinley Dorje of Tibet is the 17th Karmapa.”

Comment:

H.H. 17th Karmapa Dawa Sangpo Dorje does not believe in the authenticity of those letters and therefore he is asking for forsenic examination of those prediction letters, but the fact, that some High Lamas refuses to do so, proves, that those letters are fake!

“Thirdly, all the highly realized monks of the Vajrayana Buddhism, like H.H. the Dalai Lama, H.H. Sakya Trizin and many other compassionate religious practitioners, have in their wisdom said that Urgyen Trinley Dorje of Tibet is the 17th Karmapa”

Comment:

Who in the whole world could give the permission to meditate about the genuine incarnation of the Karmapa? Only about false Karmapas one High Lama could meditate on his own wish! And consequent find only a false answer!!!!!!

The Karmapa is the first and highest incarnated Lama in humankind history, he introduced by himself the incarnation-legend by proving his own incarnation at each incarnation taken place before also this time on 17th incarnation. Nobody else has the spiritual right to counterfeit this legend, everybody who promotes and follows those teachings is a son of hell and not a son of heaven.

 

 

Advice of H.H. 17th Karmapa Dawa Sangpo Dorje in order to solve the Karmapa Issue practice in this way:

“Out of three Karmapas two of them may die, only the genuine Karmapa will be alive."

 

His Holiness  16th Karmapa

His Holiness 17th Karmapa

  Kagyupa

Guru Padmashambava

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